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Brian Vicente of Vicente Sederberg returns for an update on
the progression of the cannabis legalization movement. Brian
discusses current thoughts on consumption legislation, what’s
happening on the ground in Colorado and key states around the
country. On the one hand we discuss the concept of “first
world marijuana problems,” and the potential ‘full-blown’ end to
prohibition, but we also discuss the forces still working against
legalization and where they might succeed…which is why his song
choice at the end of the conversation makes all the sense in the
world.

Transcript:

Speaker 1: Brian brian,

Speaker 2: of course, have the Sunday Cedarburg returns for an update on the progression of cannabis legalization. Welcome to cannabis economy. I'm your host Seth Adler. Check us out on twitter, facebook, instagram, and on Youtube channel with the handle can economy. That's two ends of the word economy, not the new cannabis economy APP in itunes. You can get us through the itunes podcast APP and Google play. Brian discusses current thoughts on consumption legislation, what's happening on the ground in Colorado and key states around the country. On the one hand, we've discussed the concept of first world marijuana problems and the potential full blown into prohibition, but we also discussed the forces still working against legalization and where they might succeed, which is why his song choice at the end of the conversation makes all the sense in the world.

Speaker 1: Here we are, the set day Cedarburg had headquarters, which continues to be one of the classiest headquarters in all of candidates. We do what we can do. Again. Brian has said to a thank you for, uh, joining us in your office. My pleasure. Little bit of an echo here in the, um, you know, boardroom is what we would call it. Yeah. Basically. Yeah. What was this building originally? This was a private residence. It was built in the late or she in early 19 hundreds and then it's been everything from a jazz club to a French restaurant to campaign headquarters for the governor and all sorts of things. Wow. And apparently it's haunted. They say, Aha. Have you experienced that? I have not. But if you go to the front page of the book onto Denver, this mansion is literally on the cover. This is it.

Speaker 1: This is it. Okay. I think it's a good ghost. If anything. Well, it's, it's certainly helped so far. I mean if they feel like we've done. Okay. So we spoke to you and kind of went into your history last time we talked. Um, and thanks for all the shirts because, uh, that was helpful and I'm now what we want to do. We're kind of making our way into second quarter 2016 and you know, let's talk about the real time history of legal cannabis. So when last, uh, I spoke with you and your guys, Steve Fox, not withstanding a, when I came to Colorado last, we were talking about consumption. We were gonna, we were gonna a crack that nut or go down that rabbit hole where, where are we with consumption? Uh, well, people are still consuming, but uh, you know, that's still working, still working around it has been difficult to get the state and a bigger cities like Denver to move forward with figuring out a sensible solutions to, um, to a public use, you know, indeed.

Speaker 1: Um, so nice word choice by the way. Yeah, there you go. Always branding. I know indeed. Um, you know, we're always, I mean we just have issues where people can come here, they can smoke marijuana, they can buy marijuana, you know, they, that they can't smoke in their hotel rooms against smoking in cars, can't spoken on street corners. So we're actually seeing, you know, a real spike in public consumption tickets. And that's not the, that's not what us authors of legalization or the voters had in mind. That wasn't the point. We want less people arrested for marijuana, not more, and certainly we are arresting a lot less, but they are arresting people, Republican assumption at higher rates. So that's frustrating. So we're basically trying to figure that out. Um, but it, it's been a, we floated about measure, uh, the support wasn't exactly there then the city of Denver indicated they'd work with us and try to figure something out as usual.

Speaker 1: Um, you know, marijuana reform is not something that's led by government officials so that, that we went down that rabbit hole and you know, Kinda got our rabbit head chopped off I guess. And so now we're back kind of considering what to do. Um, there's some discussion of the state legislature just a block away from here about passing some sort of consumption stuff this year. Um, otherwise Denver norml is pushing forward with a ballot measure. We've been at the table kind of helping to draft that. I'm not sure if it's going to move forward definitely or not, but, uh, you know, I'm, I'm glad the conversations happening.

Speaker 3: It, it was, it was striking to me. I just did a tour of spark in San Francisco, beautiful place, beautiful and, and here along the wall here, our patients openly consuming within the dispensary and it was striking based on the conversations that I've had with you and you know, the folks here. Sure. That it was really not an issue at all. And I did ask, I said, yeah,

Speaker 1: you know, how many issues have you had? And they of course said how many zero, right? Yeah, no, that's fine. I, I visited spark probably six or seven years ago and that consumption what's going on and certainly I've had no problems and I think that is important just to focus on for a second, a lot of art discussion about consumption generally as about tourists and you know, how can adults use marijuana recreationally and have this cool social effect of concerts. But I do think it's very notable that it's important that patients are able to have that access as well and go into a place like spark. I mean you can see this sort of, it's almost like a psychosocial effect where you're going in and you're hanging out with other patients. Maybe bud tenders, I don't know, and they're educating you on this and then you're consuming marijuana together and it's sort of, you know, I think there's a communal aspect there that's important for people's healing. Um, and uh, and sort of removing the stigma of, of this medicine and, and so I think there's something to that and I hope we can get to a place like that soon.

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